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The BBC reports:

Snoop Dogg has revealed he has joined the Nation of Islam after appearing at the religious group’s annual Saviours’ Day event in Chicago.

The rapper, who described himself as the “leader of the hip-hop community”, told followers he would share what he learned with other musicians.

He told reporters that he joined the group because he was “doing what’s right and representing what’s right”.

It preaches self-reliance for black people within an Islamic framework.

At Sunday’s event, the rapper sat on stage while Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan gave a speech.

Do you think they’ll also accept Linday Lohan? Because I sure don’t want her.

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10 Responses to “Snoop Dogg joins Nation of Islam”

  1. Dean says:

    “You don’t want her”?

    Who the eff do you think you are? You work at the Jewish Admissions Office or something? You honestly disgust me and put Judaism to shame.

  2. mikecg says:

    The people who put Judaism to shame are those who have absolutely no standards for what it means to be a Jew. Eating bagels is not what makes someone Jewish. Jewish tradition has clear cut and established criteria on the conversion process. Committing yourself to living a moral lifestyle in line with Torah values is what makes someone Jewish, not attending a 4 week class and changing absolutely nothing about your life except that instead of christmas you celebrate chanukah – or worse, you celebrate both! Not to say that someone born Jewish who doesn’t observe the torah is not jewish – they are as jewish as the lubavitcher rebbe! But when accepting new members to our nation, there is a process that’s been around for thousands of years.
    Your real question should be who made these “rabbis” that will go through with her conversion the Jewish Admissions Office? They have absolutely no grounds to convert such a person.

  3. john smith says:

    Your standards for who is considered a Jew are contradictory. Why is it ok to consider someone who is born Jewish but doesn’t observe the Torah to be Jewish, but not someone who at least puts forth an effort to learn about Judaism? Not only that, but Judaism is not simply a religion, it is a culture. I grew up in a very Jewish neighbourhood, and I have non-Jewish friends who have been to so many Bar/Bat Mitzvahs that they have embraced the culture. I proudly declare them to be honorary Jews.
    As a mock argument, I suggest everyone watch Season 5 Episode 8 of Kenny vs Spenny.

  4. Erez says:

    The Jewish people are not a religion, nor are they a culture, rather the Jewish people are a Nation (there are jews from all over the world practicing different cultures, eg. morocco, yemen, spain, etc). Therefore, conversion works just like the immigration process to any Nation. If you are born Canadian, breaking the laws and regulations of the country will not cause you to lose your status as a Canadian citizen. Same thing goes for the Jewish people, if you are born a Jew, your connection to the laws does not dictate your status as a Jew. However, if a person tried to immigrate to Canada but said that they wont commit to paying taxes, or they insist on being a thief, the country would tell them to take a hike. Same things goes for the Jewish people. If a person wants to convert, yet he has no interest in keeping the laws, the conversion request would be ignored. Doesn’t sound very contradictory to me…
    Also, I think you would agree to this point, otherwise you wouldn’t have called your friends who attend bar-mitzvas ‘honorary Jews’ but rather full fledged Jews. While the relations between sects of Canadians are always bettered by an open mind, and a willingness to explore the unknown, I don’t think anyone would say that being Jewish means eating a bagel, or dancing at a bar-mitzva, or going to a class for that matter. It is a commitment to the people, like a patriot is committed to his nation.

  5. mikecg says:

    To give a different angle on what Erez said:
    Someone who was born Jewish is Jewish because that is the way that God made them, and they have a specific mission in their life to fulfill that can only be done as a Jew. That is between that person and God. It is not the place of any Jew to judge any other Jews “jewishness”. Every Jew is judged perfectly by God at their own level, in a way that no human being could ever do.
    On the other hand, if someone is born non-Jewish, then the same logic holds: that person’s mission in this world is to be fulfilled as a non-Jew. Who are we to change the way God made someone? Only after going through a vigorous process where we can be sure beyond a less than a reasonable doubt that this person is indeed supposed to live their life as a Jew can we as human beings change this person’s status.
    And your right, Judaism is kind of a religion, and it also kind of a culture, or as Erez put it, it is simply a nation. That’s one of the unique things about it. And you have to ask yourself, when someone is ‘converting’ are they converting into the religion, or are they converting into the culture? If you say that they are converting into the religion, then you have to listen to what god’s Torah has to say about conversion. If you say that they are converting into the culture, then what sense does that make? If I like Italian culture, and I cook lots of italian food, and attend lots of Italian events, and hang out with lots of Italian people, does that make me Italian? Is there someone who has the authority to make me an Italian? NO! It’s a culture! If someone likes Jewish culture, then they can eat bagels and light chanukah candles, but that doesn’t make them a Jew. It does not make sense for anyone who calls himself a Rabbi to tell someone they are now a Jew UNLESS that person is fully committed the Jewish nation.

  6. john smith says:

    Erez: I really appreciate your analogy regarding Judaism as a nation. I had not considered that when I made my post. I agree that if someone were trying to immigrate and refused to follow the laws of the country they would not be granted the rights of a citizen. But as Mike has pointed out, Judaism is unique in that it can be defined in many different ways, though he seems to be focusing on the religious aspect, judging from all the references to G-d (I write it this way out of respect for those reading). Mike, you can correct me if I’m wrong. It is this uniqueness that causes much debate within the Jewish community. Personally, I identify more with the culture of Judaism rather than the religious aspect of it, or the nationality aspect. That’s not to say that I don’t believe in the nation of Judaism, or that I don’t feel angry when I encounter anti-semitism or violence towards Jews. I go to shul on high holidays, and I had a bar mitzvah, but it’s the togetherness and joys involved that give me pride to be a Jew. If someone else wants to join in the community I don’t see the problem. Even if it is just for a brief time. The fact is that there’s something drawing them toward it, and they should be welcomed to enjoy.

    My use of the word ‘honorary’ was not meant to downplay the degree of jewishness. Rather, it was meant as a way to welcome them into the community without having been born Jewish, or converting.

    Mike: Yes, if they are converting to the religion they should follow the Torah. But converting is no longer as simple as choosing to become Jewish. There are different sects of Judaism, some of which require a less thorough conversion process and are more liberal. The link about Lohan does not mention which sect she has chosen, so perhaps she has chosen one that is more laxed and accepting of new comers.

  7. mikecg says:

    John,
    I am glad you acknowledge that they can be welcomed into the community without converting. And that is a huge distinction which people in the more liberal sects fail to recognize. It only makes sense to convert, and then be called a Jew, if you are fully joining the nation. I am 99.99999% sure that the sect that she is converting into is a sect that does not even recognize the divine authenticity of the Torah, and so they have no authority to truly convert people. What they are doing is essentially converting people into the culture, which makes no sense! To be a Jew that doesn’t believe in God is one thing – that’s a personal decision. But to be a Jew that doesn’t believe in God and then labels that as Judaism AND tells other people that if they do the same then they are also Jews is a completely different story! No other religion or culture in the world does this.

  8. Erez says:

    John, if you accept the analogy of nationhood, then the ‘liberal’ people who have a new system of accepting conversions would be equivalent to black market social insurance number dealers. The system of people becoming part of the Jewish people was undisputed for 3000 years. For someone to come along and offer a new method, would be like fraud. The only way to change the constitution of a nation is through legislation, and that has not happened with the issue of conversion. At the very least, you can’t blame those citizens of the nation for not accepting the new conversion methods.

  9. snooop doggg is a gay crypto jew, otherwise he gets no pay check for rapping for the kikes. Islam people should beware of this slant eyed black serpent, a jew house nigga
    All of you whitey fake jews peddling your imaginary persecuted race farce are disgusting to say the least. Racist anti-semite talmudic liars and lunatics the lot of you! You can’t keep the lies going for much longer

  10. leon says:

    your username is shakedatass4me so people can stop reading there

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